S/A never signed


#1

Its not valid, a agreement is only valid if its agreed by both parties signed and noterized.


#2

A separation agreement is only binding if if it is in writing, signed and notarized by both parties.

Lisa M. Angel
Board Certified Family Law Specialist
The Rosen Law Firm
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#3

When my daughter was 7, my hubby and I were still together, she seen her dad ontop of my best friend, that was in 2000, he emotionally blackmailed her, threatening to take away from her the one thing that gave her comfort, not wanting to lose what her dad was threating to take away, she held his secret for 4 years, when she remembered what she had seen she told me, she was 11 when she recalled.
My lawyer tells me I am time barred,I keep insisting she was a minor when it happen and she was still a minor, also my child was seeing a Child Psychiatric, she had a friend to get kill and it blew her mind, I went looking for her some help to get her through the nights without nightmares and screams. Doctor said she had a mental block, reason for her bad school grades, could that had caused her to forget what she had seen her daddy do and remember later.
She was being abused by hubby’s new wife when she remembered, that’s when I hired this Lawyer to get my girl out of that house, 8 months of court and she is still in that house. I am as poor as a church mouse and he is burning up what little I can give this Lawyer,
from day one he has railroaded me.

Could it reverse my divorce judgement what he did to our daughter, had she told what she seen, it would had blowed him to kingdom come, instead I was blowen to hell and back over and over and over.
For a year I had asked that man for a seperation and for a year he refused,he lived in a bottle for 19 years, last 3 was spent on a vodka binge, that was when it became too unbearable.
It wasn’t like a could ask for a seperation and expect to get it, we both knew there was alot to lose and I knew he wasn’t going to let go easy, it had to be mutual because I knew he would fight tooth and nail and I just didn’t want to fight, I simply wanted out and to be left alone. I didn’t see where he had much of a choice, but still,to get him to that point, I didn’t know how to do it.

I agreed to see the counsler he chose, the counsler told him a seperation would be for the best I had made up my mind and there
was no changing my mind.
He told my then hubby, “write the check and let her go”,
I could not believe he said that, I was embarrassed, I wanted nothing but my baby girl who was 7 years old at the time and what was fair.

He swore to destroy me, I didn’t think he could do it he didn’t have anything against me, I hadn’t done nothing but take care of my family I was simply a wife and Mom.

When he realized I was just about out the door with our daughter in my arms and he literally expunged me from my home out of sheer desperation to get and keep whatever he thought was all his and his alone.
He bellowed and he roared out threats he would kill me deader than hell if I called 911 on him, if I made statements or filed complaints against him, he would burn me down where he found me,
I had to deal with him and if he found out I had talked with a lawyer, my Mother would find me floating, he had the “POWER” and I had better
do what he wanted me to do or else I would find myself homeless and penniless.

He refused me any help with money, I had to sign his papers first then he would give me money for food, I could not sign them, they were lies and he wanted my child, in his words, “I’ll kill you before a give you a dime for support”.
All this time he was sleeping with my best friend and she was telling him everything he had ever wanted to know or wondered.
There isn’t enough space on this message thingy to go into how he sheer terrorize, threat and harrassed me, wanting me to sign his papers.
His threats were nothing to laugh at, my car hood flew up in my face one morning taking my girl to school, I learned from my daughter he broke in to my house several times, had remove or miss place things
wanting people to think I was losing my mind so he could play his mental card like his dad did his mom, peeped in my windows, it was bad and got worse.
And no, I did not dare call 911, I had seen that barrel of his gun to many times to know he would use it.
Neighbors and friends knew it was possible he would hurt me, he had done it many times, I did what he ask me to do.

In 2003, hubby was awarded everything including my girl, for 25 years I stood by his side the last 3 years he lived in a Vodka bottle when it became to unbearable I wanted out and was punished to proverty for it.
My best friend that he conspired with, wanted me dead and told me
she would not stop til I was dead.
I knew she didn’t have anything awful on me so I didn’t worry about it.
Now I know, her lies has cost me my life, between those two they striped me and raped my life and they live happily ever after while I stand in a church line to get food, some just ain’t right.
There has to be something I can do to get justice, she and him can not do to me and my children what they have done and get by with it They gave no reguard to the dangers they put me in.

The Holy Spirit told my Mama 2 years ago there would be another judgement and I have believed in His words, finding out what I have
is a miracle, He didn’t let me find all this out and not be able to do something, I even found out he slept with my baby sister, just to learn what he could and she stole my mail when my court notices came that my case was being heard, I lost my property, Judge said I abandon it.
I have had to deal with alot and I can’t seem to get any place.

Have you ever jumped up and spinned around to go to the bathroom or wherever and step on the toe of your sock, stumble and fall, I keep stepping on the toe of my socks.
Here are my time frames
Seperated 2001 Divorced in 2003 my girl told me what she knew in November 2004, I retained a Lawyer 2005.
I am desperate, these people can’t do what they have done and get by with it, the mental anguish they have brought down on me and my children is uncomperhensable, I didn’t have a dollar to buy my oldest sister a flower when she passed away.
There has to be something to show for 25 years of marriage other than
"nothing".
Please be my second opinion.
Liberty


#4

When my daughter was 7, my hubby and I were still together, she seen her dad ontop of my best friend, that was in 2000, he emotionally ing that gave her comfort, not wanting to lose what her dad was threating to take away, she held his secret for 4 years, when she remembered what she had seen she told me, she was 11 when she recalled.
My lawyer tells me I am time barred,I keep insisting she was a minor when it happen and she was still a minor, also my child was seeing a Child Psychiatric, she had a friend to get kill and it blew her mind, I went looking for her some help to get her through the nights without nightmares and screams. Doctor said she had a mental block, reason for her bad school grades, could that had caused her to forget
what she had seen her daddy do and remember later.
She was being abused by hubby’s new wife when she remembered, that’s when I hired this Lawyer to get my girl out of that house, 8 months of court and she is still in that house. I am as poor as a church mouse and he is burning up what little I can give this Lawyer,
from day one he has railroaded me.

Could it reverse my divorce judgement what he did to our daughter, had she told what she seen, it would had blowed him to kingdom come, instead I was blowen to hell and back over and over and over.
For a year I had asked that man for a seperation and for a year he refused,he lived in a bottle for 19 years, last 3 was spent on a vodka binge, that was when it became too unbearable.
It wasn’t like a could ask for a seperation and expect to get it, we both knew there was alot to lose and I knew he wasn’t going to let go easy, it had to be mutual because I knew he would fight tooth and nail and I just didn’t want to fight, I simply wanted out and to be left alone. I didn’t see where he had much of a choice, but still,to get him to that point, I didn’t know how to do it.

I agreed to see the counsler he chose, the counsler told him a seperation would be for the best I had made up my mind and there
was no changing my mind.
He told my then hubby, “write the check and let her go”,
I could not believe he said that, I was embarrassed, I wanted nothing but my baby girl who was 7 years old at the time and what was fair.

He swore to destroy me, I didn’t think he could do it he didn’t have anything against me, I hadn’t done nothing but take care of my family I was simply a wife and Mom.

When he realized I was just about out the door with our daughter in my arms and he literally expunged me from my home out of sheer desperation to get and keep whatever he thought was all his and his alone.
He bellowed and he roared out threats he would kill me deader than hell if I called 911 on him, if I made statements or filed complaints against him, he would burn me down where he found me,
I had to deal with him and if he found out I had talked with a lawyer, my Mother would find me floating, he had the “POWER” and I had better
do what he wanted me to do or else I would find myself homeless and penniless.

He refused me any help with money, I had to sign his papers first then he would give me money for food, I could not sign them, they were lies and he wanted my child, in his words, “I’ll kill you before a give you a dime for support”.
All this time he was sleeping with my best friend and she was telling him everything he had ever wanted to know or wondered.
There isn’t enough space on this message thingy to go into how he sheer terrorize, threat and harrassed me, wanting me to sign his papers.
His threats were nothing to laugh at, my car hood flew up in my face one morning taking my girl to school, I learned from my daughter he broke in to my house several times, had remove or miss place things
wanting people to think I was losing my mind so he could play his mental card like his dad did his mom, peeped in my windows, it was bad and got worse.
And no, I did not dare call 911, I had seen that barrel of his gun to many times to know he would use it.
Neighbors and friends knew it was possible he would hurt me, he had done it many times, I did what he ask me to do.

In 2003, hubby was awarded everything including my girl, for 25 years I stood by his side the last 3 years he lived in a Vodka bottle when it became to unbearable I wanted out and was punished to proverty for it.
My best friend that he conspired with, wanted me dead and told me
she would not stop til I was dead.
I knew she didn’t have anything awful on me so I didn’t worry about it.
Now I know, her lies has cost me my life, between those two they striped me and raped my life and they live happily ever after while I stand in a church line to get food, some just ain’t right.
There has to be something I can do to get justice, she and him can not do to me and my children what they have done and get by with it They gave no reguard to the dangers they put me in.

The Holy Spirit told my Mama 2 years ago there would be another judgement and I have believed in His words, finding out what I have
is a miracle, He didn’t let me find all this out and not be able to do something, I even found out he slept with my baby sister, just to learn what he could and she stole my mail when my court notices came that my case was being heard, I lost my property, Judge said I abandon it.
I have had to deal with alot and I can’t seem to get any place.

Have you ever jumped up and spinned around to go to the bathroom or wherever and step on the toe of your sock, stumble and fall, I keep stepping on the toe of my socks.
Here are my time frames
Seperated 2001 Divorced in 2003 my girl told me what she knew in November 2004, I retained a Lawyer 2005.
I am desperate, these people can’t do what they have done and get by with it, the mental anguish they have brought down on me and my children is uncomperhensable, I didn’t have a dollar to buy my oldest sister a flower when she passed away.
There has to be something to show for 25 years of marriage other than
"nothing".
Please be my second opinion.
Liberty


#5

Whats up with the extremly long post!!! don’t get upset if the responding attorneys don’t respond.


#6

I entered twice, oops


#7

In 2001, I venomously refused to sign “his” seperation agree, they were chalked full of lies and more lies, is it valid?